sentence,score
The actual code and AI. It has a supernatural quality that I would like to incorporate.,0.9999840259552002
"It captures a logic of how things should be connected: In this world, umbrellas should be in toilets, and cats in sinks.",0.9999598264694214
"Because that is what we are creating, a world where we can feel ourselves and each other and do less harm and generate more freedom.
mi
Michelle
4:51 PM
adrienne maree brown - Emergent Strategy
mi
Michelle
4:52 PM
NONLINEAR AND ITERATIVE
The pace and pathways of change.
re
Renée
4:59 PM
btw: this is one of the most moving books I've read about breathing...",0.9999480247497559
"Because that is what we are creating, a world where we can feel ourselves and each other and do less harm and generate more freedom.
mi
Michelle
4:51 PM
adrienne maree brown - Emergent Strategy
mi
Michelle
4:52 PM
NONLINEAR AND ITERATIVE
The pace and pathways of change.""

Sieta: how does the body relate to this also, because memory happening in the body is indeed not a movie playing 'in the environment' but memory at a cellular level.

Linda: I think it's interesting that we're talking about reliving the memory, it's not a filing cabinet, you relive it and you also change it as you relive it, your physical response is a kind of motor that drives the story, there's the feedback cycle of your body makes your neuros fire, which make the body respond, which makes your neurons fire, etc.!

Noemi: the breath and going deeper into the body, we can look at it as something that relates the mental and the physical, not just as something that contracts and expands.",0.9999371767044067
"WE ARE THE OBSERVER AND THE OBSERVED. It is dualistic but in a way it feels unifying.
- (Cristina) unity is an interesting choice of word.
- (Renee) examinating the quote from Henderson. (Sonia) you think that in order to understand Life there needs to be a division in variables of different types of existince.
- (Michelle) Mark Lewis (Lynn Margulis), the questioning of the evolution tree.",0.9999080896377563
"Transparency is better than unbiased, because it is impossible to be unbiased.",0.9999037981033325
"Not to come to a standstill as a movement, but to take turns actually feeling what is happening to and around us, and letting our feeling help us understand what we much do.",0.9998811483383179
"Not to come to a standstill as a movement, but to take turns actually feeling what is happening to and around us, and letting our feeling help us understand what we much do.",0.9998811483383179
"The whole person, the face of the person.",0.9998741149902344
"Jesus 7,000 workers hours.
A: They evaluate training of datasets.

[Object& Scene Categories]

Donna Summer: I really like the captions on the categories.

Renée
3:34 PM
Rather
than requiring workers to draw exact polygonal masks
around each object instance, we allow workers to “paint”
all pixels belonging to the category in question.",0.999866247177124
"Exactitude of action is robustness.

Sonia: Robustness as resilience: how long can you stay under water, how long will you resist in the cold, etc.",0.9997636675834656
"The discreteness is not a problem, the meaning is contained within the interrogator.
(Sonia) yes! Meaning in the making.",0.9997598528862
"In this very Euro-centric colonial landscape, it's very interesting to think about this aspect.",0.999742329120636
"Funny to see that language echo.

R: On terminology.",0.9997175335884094
"Going through this, and collectively was an amazing experience.

Strollology

Mi
Michelle
3:43 PM
Lucius Burckhardt

donna summer
3:44 PM
numerous tall flags and a colorfully dressed man standing among them
the person is stands in color as the surrounding flags are in black and white.
there is a person standing on the beach.
a person stands out amongst a black and white background
a person that is standing by a bunch of flags

Sieta
3:46 PM
https://experiments.runwayml.com/generative_engine/

Sonia
3:47 PM
http://moments.csail.mit.edu/

S: 3 seconds is how much time you need to recognize what is happening.

Agathe Balayn
3:47 PM
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.groundai.com%2Fproject%2Fdo-imagenet-classifiers-generalize-to-imagenet%2F1&psig=AOvVaw1MKV_xTVY6u04H8kRsEfOc&ust=1615992357643000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPCYjeyGte8CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ this is what the ImageNet crowdsourcing task looks like

R: The glance and the gaze.",0.9996931552886963
"We need unequivocal actions - the waving of hands to signify agreement, a thumbs up - so that meaning is transmitted automatically.",0.9996660947799683
"As a result, we publish our code and data from our research so that others can reproduce and build upon it.

Sustainability - We believe that sustainability is necessary for societal change - that small daily efforts, over a long time are what truly change the world.",0.9996323585510254
For both the text we will read and for each other.,0.999626636505127
Robustness is the sedimented result of an agent's original internal dynamics and the environment.,0.9995880722999573
They create a lot of interfaces. they are built for speed for speedy workers.,0.9995830655097961
A privileged value of a protected attribute indicates a group that has historically been at a systematic advantage.,0.9995797276496887
Recognizing an object as fast as possible.,0.9995669722557068
"Pizza, food, child's food.",0.9995487332344055
The wink and the blink.,0.9993858337402344
"By analogy, we propose that every dataset be accompanied with a datasheet that documents its motivation, composition, collection process, recommended uses, and so on.
[17:11] Renée: data sheets for datasets
[17:11] Renée: that's great because it outs the gatekeepers in some sense
[17:11] Sieta: like a README?
[17:11] Renée: exactly
[17:11] Renée: dataset design
[17:12] Cristina: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriate_technology
[17:21] Renée: https://ethw.org/Oral-History:Karen_Sp%C3%A4rck_Jones#About_Karen_Sp.C3.A4rck_Jones
[17:25] Sieta: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/coronavirus-vaccinatie/vraag-en-antwoord/wanneer-krijg-ik-een-vaccinatie-tegen-het-coronavirus
[17:25] Cristina: https://book.affecting-technologies.org/introduction/
[17:26] Renée: Thank you Cristina
[17:27] Cristina: https://digilabour.com.br/2021/04/05/histories-of-ai-imaginaries-and-materialities-seminar-april-19-20/
[17:28] Michelle: As organizers, we prize these exchanges as productive collisions, as the signs of life of a new counterculture of computing that we hope to nourish.",0.9993689656257629
Good stories are demonstrating something in an objective way.,0.9993667006492615
"You can try to control it, but breathing in and of itself, you can't control.

Renée
4:59 PM
btw: this is one of the most moving books I've read about breathing...",0.9993060827255249
"Conception of limits, how constraints affect each other within organisms and advances.",0.9991201758384705
"Children 8-14 asked what is the most prominant feature in their environment.
A: They said they wanted to capture their whole world.",0.9991017580032349
"Or use those biases as a source of debate and public engagement?

Sieta
4:28 PM
I like that very much, using the cracks of the old to rebuild the new

L: Playing cards.",0.9990708827972412
Language of science as being a unifying language.,0.9989901185035706
"The difference between humans learning and machine learning.
A: To augment the data set they asked children to do it.

[showing pictures in front of computers, outside, on sidewalks, in diners]

A: Pictures of weddings.",0.9988918900489807
Or precise segments.,0.9988911747932434
"It feels really important to me to include pieces on grief and emotions in this book because, as people participating in movements, we are faced with so much loss, and because we have to learn to give each other more time to feel, to be in our humanity.",0.9987999200820923
"It feels really important to me to include pieces on grief and emotions in this book because, as people participating in movements, we are faced with so much loss, and because we have to learn to give each other more time to feel, to be in our humanity.",0.9987999200820923
The text has a philosophical framework in order to relate to the understanding of livig systems substaining themselves.,0.9986825585365295
"If you want to familiarize yourself a bit with the context of the book, do have a look in advance, but the last chapter is relevant to the questions we were left with after reading Turing's objections, so it's gonna be useful I think!

FEBRURARY 23 MEETING NOTES by Anna (reading of Computing Machinery and Intelligence, Alan Turing)
A.",0.9985774755477905
"Distraction and attention in relation to the will.

Michelle: the dialectics of attention and orientation, thinking in terms of transformation and emergence.",0.9985625147819519
"And becomes super familiar with that task.

Sonia
3:31 PM
On average our dataset contains3.5 categories and 7.7 instances per image.",0.9984795451164246
I find it interesting to define the metric you have to define the protected group.,0.9983662962913513
Something literally.,0.9982792139053345
Turing (1950) Computing Machinery and Intelligence.,0.9981788396835327
Turing (1950) Computing Machinery and Intelligence.,0.9981788396835327
"I am not sure how to go about looking at the code.
R: I love this prejudice remover.",0.9980870485305786
And autonomy as a property.,0.9980018734931946
"This way we reassert a new way of looking at information from a African perspective and shun any attempts to devalue our knowledge and stories

Ownership - We believe that Africans should be in charge of owning, driving and participating in the NLP research process, rather than as observers or data providers.

Openness - We believe in sharing our ideas and progress openly, especially on the African continent, for Africans.",0.9979032278060913
"Reading the paper, the three sources for categories.",0.9978431463241577
How does a system differentiate from one another.,0.9977303147315979
"This is how common objects are put in context: not primarily by any natural context in which they might appear, but explicitly by their appearance together with other COCO classes.",0.997597873210907
"Especially to the question of what is learning, etc.",0.997512936592102
Super interesting.,0.9973570108413696
They send the image on a cross reference platform.,0.9973453879356384
"It believes we share our successes and one’s personhood is evaluated based on their contributions to the community.

African-centricity.",0.9972906708717346
"In the humanities, many people use this methods to establish patterns between huge amounts of text.",0.9972612857818604
Question: We are in an interdisciplinary moment where we need each other to think through the consequences.,0.9966614246368408
"It's not just me being autonomous, it's my dependancy on the environment.

Michelle: whether it's bad air or good air, the time when you stop breathing is when you take your last breath.",0.9964298605918884
That's part of the complexity of that choice.,0.996229350566864
"See you all after the break!
[16:22] danae: good luck!
[16:22] Renée: take care Linda
[16:23] Renée: This is definitely a continuation of those traditions
[16:28] Renée: And if we speak about datasets, what does it mean and what will the impact be if some datasets dominate over others and shape particular futures...
[16:28] Renée: at the exclusion of others?
[16:32] danae: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/isolated-communities-connect-amid-pandemic/
[16:32] Renée: thanks for the link Danae
[16:33] Michelle: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2015/04/allende-chile-beer-medina-cybersyn/
[16:34] Agathe Balayn: natural language processing for Africa https://www.masakhane.io/
[16:34] Renée: Thank you Agathe
[16:35] Cristina: thanks agathe!
[16:36] Renée: Our Values


Umuntu Ngumuntu Ngabantu - loosely translated from isiZulu means “a person is a person through another person” or “I am because you are”.",0.9961212277412415
"Vital force in non animistic.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJSJ28eEUjI&ab_channel=BanffEvents intersting related to the idea of animistic view in science
-(Michelle) Arturo Escobar's book where indigenous knowledge (feminist indigenous knowledge) is brought into the scientific conversation.

NOTES MEETING 2nd of March by Anna

Sonia: introducing text.",0.995816171169281
This philosophy calls for collaboration and participation and community.,0.9954941272735596
There is something poetic about these captions.,0.9954307079315186
We excercise free will when we project meaning; this is autonomous.,0.9949374198913574
"It is the the standard association that everybody guides themselves by in the technical world.
Renee: ISO Standards from pizza crusts to education to AI. It is quite something.
Sonia: reference ISO gym
Renee: We are doing a lot of reading.",0.9941577911376953
"Concentration camps as leisure parks
N: Interesting the cell phone, and the icon.",0.9941369295120239
To be burried with your computer as a kind of life force.,0.9940215945243835
"This is collected by the community and stored as a repository on a locally accessible server.
[16:03] Renée: These are also archival practices
[16:03] Renée: setting up a repository of local and situated knowledge
[16:06] Renée: time, duration, volunteerism, and how these approaches can be sustained in the long run
[16:09] Renée: outside of a monetary incentive, another knowledge is liberated, possible and allowed to flourish
[16:11] Renée: I suck at working in the terminal
[16:15] Sieta: is there somewhere a website for rhizomatica?
[16:15] Noemi: https://www.rhizomatica.org/
[16:15] Sieta: thanks you
[16:17] Renée: This is useful - not just the links but the links: https://www.rhizomatica.org/resources/
[16:17] Michelle: Sustainable livelihoods are facilitated by this system using an e-commerce platform, ensuring direct connection between the farmer and the clientele for selling and purchasing of goods.",0.9940145611763
And of course the breath is also influenced by the environment.,0.9939306974411011
Detecting bias.,0.9938817024230957
"This is a lot of time! The need to do one task, super fast.
A: Having one person who has one task.",0.9938135147094727
A protected attribute is an attribute that partitions a population into groups that have parity in terms of benefit received.,0.9936701059341431
Each is aligned to one fairness metric.,0.9936647415161133
"Crediting the committee.

Classificatoin Thresholds.

A: They don't just have a binary decision.",0.9935230016708374
"Talking as a dyke, there is an aspect of performativity that you need to have.",0.9934432506561279
"It’s a little world, and we hope just one of many.",0.9934200644493103
"It’s a little world, and we hope just one of many.",0.9934200644493103
"My interest in them stems from the observation that within many spaces where large amounts of data are collected, there are often empty spaces where no data live.",0.992775559425354
Your understanding of the state and that it will change.,0.9925609230995178
After we became more accustomed to looking at the images.,0.9925365447998047
"In the Pathardi community network in Maharashtra, women played a lead role in collecting information of the various biodiversity available in the village.",0.9923958778381348
"Sonia will write these after the meeting! The machine is its operation, and the operation is the machine....",0.9923719167709351
The red line is the fairness.,0.9921147227287292
And it is you giving meaning.,0.991523265838623
"What is the truth of freedom in this?

Michelle: Hardt and Negri on love, forms of assembly and the robustness of a system.",0.9911723732948303
Self-organized systems act from their own point of view.,0.9908949136734009
Renee found the names of the researchers mentioned.,0.9897931814193726
The level of communication between these interfaces was very interesting.,0.9893665909767151
"Innocent, sure.",0.9890773296356201
"So it is very telling.
Linda: Why children?
Christina: Assumption that children as the least bias.",0.9887980818748474
"What is necessary is to have clear ideas about what life is? |||STOP||||
|||STOP||||We have this idea of unity.",0.9886288642883301
There is something inbuilt in that title because it says ... it is weirdly acclaimed to universal knowledge.,0.988341748714447
"In particular, we have
increased the number of annotators for the category
labeling and instance spotting stages to eight.",0.9882710576057434
"For this reason, we actively wreckon with the ethical impacts of our work

Data sovereignty - We believe Africans should be able to decide what data represents our communities globally, retain ultimate ownership of that data, and know how it is used

Reproducibility - We believe in reproducible research.",0.9876969456672668
"Crawley
re
Renée
5:04 PM
robustness: The condition or quality of being robust (in various senses); sturdiness, hardiness; strength.
re
Renée
5:05 PM
robust adj: A. adj.
1.
a.",0.9876235723495483
She reads out part of the discussion.,0.9874697923660278
"What does it mean to recall and remember?
[16:24] Renée : What are we forgetting today?
[16:24] Sieta : Can technology help us to remember what we have forgotten?
[16:25] Renée : What is consent in the context of data extraction?
[16:25] Cristina : ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust )
[16:27] Renée : What are the processes of alienation and detachment that take place within AI's ruse?
[16:28] Renée : How do race and technology shape one another?
[16:28] Renée : How are input, output and impact interrelated?
[16:31] Renée : How are algorithms, as proprietary black boxes, cloaking systemic racism while simultaneously executing (producing) (proliferating) it?
[16:35] Renée : How are we literally indebted to these technologies?",0.9862787127494812
Its a very pragmatic approach.,0.9862253665924072
Attention must be given to developmental settings of complex beings.,0.9861391186714172
"Even if tiny are still labelled as something to be presented.

Agathe Balayn
3:26 PM
https://unthinking.photography/articles/an-introduction-to-image-datasets

R: It is so interesting thinking about what context is.",0.985927939414978
"Seems to be missing at the moment.|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||In AI certain decisions are a bit random.|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||Clutter - what models do not account for in separating objects within an image (but also what humans do not account for).|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||Clutter in relation to the text.|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||Necessity and contingency are the same depending what is the starting point; how you look at the universe.|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||Etymology of 'hazard' - the name of a game of dice|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||Chains of events matter|||STOP||||
|||STOP|||| Renée loves this sentence: An explanation is always a reformulation of a phenomenon showing how its components generate it through their interactions and relations.||||STOP||||
||||STOP||||Machines and living systems allows for comparative understanding of both||||STOP||||
||||STOP||||When trying to paste the last question from the text, I get: 2Uc 4Sc U0&c HO/G7_U4HBc H)c<4Y4E/cS^SU&>Sc\0Uc ;7B#cH)c> 04B&ScO&cU0&^cB#c0H\c4ScU0&4OcK0&BH>&b BH4B&#c ^cU0&4Oc WB4UO^c HO/B8aU4HBc||||STOP||||

Dates: 25, 26 March? or 26, 27 March?

Hotglue: https://v2.hotglue.me/the_slow_reading_group

Other site related things:
https://ethertoff.caveat.be/w/Eleni_Kamma::The_Corners_of_the_Mouth.md

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Questions on Symposium: Re-imagining Black Youth-Led Technologies

Next session
Personal encounters with AI

https://app.mural.co/invitation/mural/v28710/1617120139614?sender=u812232d4b6c0c84d682d0139&key=7ecd6626-5e1b-4239-8cd2-af39e079a4f2



Session: 30/03/21
Shared notes:
*starts with Octavia Butler ref <3*

What brings you joy in this time?

What do ""we"" want to be ""saved"" from?

What kind of technologies do we want in the first place?
This is not about access as that works with something predefined – to be given entry.

How would we embed our highest values?

What is depth in the context of deep learning?

What is the role of social and cultural memory within the context of technology?",0.9856566190719604
We centralize the narratives of Africans as a remedy to the effects of Euro-centricism on our beliefs.,0.9854012131690979
Danae refrenences a text on space settlements that she is reading.,0.9853218793869019
"If humans can make children, they can make intelligent machines too.
But difficult to say things are to be seen in purely scientistic terms.",0.9852328896522522
"Examples are receiving a loan, being hired for a job, and not being arrested.",0.985194742679596
"We are atoned with the concept of leopard because it is part of an collective instinct.
- (Agathe) there is more reflection to sub jectivity now, but it is still more to work on.",0.9850937128067017
Women also collected information on the various methods adopted by the community to preserve seeds.,0.9849545955657959
"You breathe differently if you are in the city or in a forest, that makes me personally very aware of my breathing as well.

Sieta: So, the human having this autonomy, having free will, alright, but if you look at the relationship between you and the environment, and you understand that your well-being is related to the air in your environment.",0.9846134185791016
The wink is intentional.,0.9836375713348389
"The open source platform allows farmers to share information and co-create knowledge on indigenous crop varieties, cultural art forms like paintings, craft, music, etc.",0.9836367964744568
"Instead of how do you make bias transparent it is expunging. 360 degrees is an interesting starting point.

Renée
3:59 PM
expunge: verb
obliterate or remove completely (something unwanted or unpleasant).

R: Training models without biases.",0.9832166433334351
What is happening inside and outside of the iamges.,0.9817788600921631
"Workers are flirting.

[laps, at a table, lawn chair]

R: To capture the whole world is almost an art project like Kenneth Goldsmith printing the internet.
A: Should we read the paper or look at something else?
A: The workers are mostly coming Amazon's Mechanical Turk.

Renée
3:23 PM
For all crowdsourcing tasks we
used workers on Amazon’s Mechanical Turk (AMT). Our
user interfaces are described in detail in the appendix.
Note that, since the original version of this work [19],
we have taken a number of steps to further improve
the quality of the annotations.",0.9815935492515564
How much photography theory we had to read.,0.9810629487037659
"The more complex an organism, the freer it is, because it has many states it can access.",0.9803248047828674
"Recreating systems of oppression.

Linda: the freedom of not being nameable.

Renee: what does that mean in terms of datasets?",0.9803169965744019
"The ambiguity of the term ""integrity"", used to describe a person's character or a system, spans both these meanings.

Cristina: ADHD for example can be seen as something which relates to the environment much more than previously discussed.",0.9798822402954102
Gödel.,0.9796890616416931
"In the case of shame and guilt, these are things that you integrate at a very early age, so they become part of the background dynamics that influence your behavior unconsciously.",0.9793980717658997
"Designing out of bias.
A: The fairness matrix to determine whether something is fair or not.",0.9792659878730774
They ask precise questions to annotate what is in the dataset.,0.9785796403884888
"It comes down to separation or networking, if I think of the whole system of fingers I cannot say that there's no structure, for me that's the way that I relate to it.",0.9783551692962646
"What can you and I take for what you've just said?

Reading in the light""""""


FEBRURARY 16 MEETING NOTES (reading of Computing Machinery and Intelligence, Alan Turing)
A.",0.9777227640151978
"Anecdote about NY: wonderful communities of minorities that were never previously visible before becoming visible, but also wars about who can be where.",0.9766037464141846
"How to engage with the language with understanding the limits. (regarding education).
A: Re: Education.",0.9763283133506775
"Mind 49: 433-460.
6.",0.9760655760765076
"Mind 49: 433-460.
6.",0.9760655760765076
Playing the dataset.,0.9758171439170837
"In the sense of comparisons between human and non-human freedom, the perspective of the dynamical system matters.",0.9753671288490295
"The vital force in everything.

Vitalist materialism.

Straw Dogs by John Gray - we are ourselves techonological devices - and here, he speaks of bacterias as technology (from Sagan and Margulis)

Humans being the gut flora of AI.

Sieta reads from James Lovelock:
referencing Freud and the uncanny - of dolls and robots and their resemblance.

Point 2.
Being scared of machines....

Is this a Luddite arguement?
Danae proposes a speculative approach - one which is anticipatory and is not technophobic.

Point 3: The mathematic objection:

What is the scope of the objection - is it about simply limitations or more profound?

Gödel's incompleteness theorems:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems

Agathe speaks about contemporary machines functioning in a very different way than they were in Turing's time.",0.9746592044830322
"And interesting in this case where bias is a computational error.
A: Lighter skin coloured people.",0.9717448949813843
"Looking through these documents, I need to see the logic.",0.971244215965271
"In other words ,
whether or not an intention is robust will be a function of the historical
and contingent sedimentation of ongoing , unique interactions between
the agent's dynamics and his or her environment : how vulnerable it is to
noise and equivocation , in short .",0.9702847003936768
"Adjacent: Agathe show + tell dataset ins and outs, and we watch something.


Chat:

Renée
4:13 PM
https://jubilee-art.org/?rd_news=2772&lang=en
mi
Michelle
4:15 PM
https://ethertoff.caveat.be/w/Eleni_Kamma::The_Corners_of_the_Mouth.md
so
Sonia
4:21 PM
Google deep dream as human-induced AI hallucinations? --> as a practice :D
si
Cristina
4:22 PM
Michelle, I think caveat is using ethertoff, which was developed around Etherpad :) it's a great tool by OSP
mi
really cool deep dream tool: https://colab.research.google.com/github/tensorflow/lucid/blob/master/notebooks/differentiable-parameterizations/appendix/infinite_patterns.ipynb#scrollTo=AZ9jgnMCRBB-
cr
Cristina
4:26 PM
https://aliciajuarrerodotcom1.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/dynamics-in-action-pdf1.pdf
mi
Michelle
https://asc-cybernetics.org/2008/HM-08WienerComments.pdf
mi
Michelle
4:51 PM
Transformation doesn’t happen in a linear way, at least not one we can always track.",0.9695255160331726
A favorable label is a label whose value corresponds to an outcome that provides an advantage to the recipient.,0.9692243933677673
Perhaps the animisim of the machine.,0.9685932993888855
"Blackpentecostal Breath: The Aesthetics of Possibility
Book by Ashon T.",0.9675217270851135
"Blackpentecostal Breath: The Aesthetics of Possibility
Book by Ashon T.",0.9675217270851135
"The degree of robustness of individual
attractors , therefore , is not a feature intrinsic to them but is dependent
rather on the overall system's ""general, underlying "" nature .",0.9674833416938782
"Don't fall into politics of hope or despair, but look at politics of reticence.",0.9668102264404297
Group fairness is the goal of groups defined by protected attributes receiving similar treatments or outcomes.,0.966574490070343
"The more complex its behavior, the more autonomous.",0.9626095294952393
"In relation to Turing's castration.

Questions as a form of reading.

Nowadays, scientists would not be encouraged to ask the same kind of questions.",0.9614217877388
"As researchers, we always try to spot the moment when the machine has the bias.",0.9613138437271118
"Everyone has to bring their context to arrive at a conclusion, to arrive at a truth.
[18:03] Cristina: from https://book.affecting-technologies.org/overcoming-the-limits-of-rationality-in-humans-and-in-rational-machines-through-ubuntus-relational-personhood/
[18:03] Renée: I agree
[18:04] Sieta: O nice text Cristina
[18:04] Sieta: thanks for sharing
[18:05] Sonia: @Cristina, last line of my paper: This text explored several reasons why we can in fact understand the question of bias under a different light if we conceive of it as a fundamentally positive condition, and how we can understand the development of AI (and technology at large) under a different lens if we consider it as a technolinguistic feedbackloop whose very business is the endless negotiation of ambiguous concepts such as “intelligence,” “artificial,” or “human,” fueled by absolute uncertainty.
[18:06] Sonia: Amén!
[18:06] Cristina: Yessss! Great line Sonia! Also love that the last two words are ""absolute uncertainty""
[18:06] Sonia: ;)
[18:07] Cristina: fleshyware

From: Introduction to Comparative Planetology by Lukas Likavcan (p. 73)
""[...] these infrastructures also display self-cannibalising tendencies, since computation is always a physical process involving the transformation of matter to energy, and energy to information.",0.9613085389137268
"Unfortunately: we cannot take this seriously thus far, we cannot observe any of these things as actually existing.
Michelle intervenes with Sadie Plant's Zeros and Ones, reading from the section on Ada Lovelace and Babbage: Complete text found here: https://monoskop.org/images/1/17/Plant_Sadie_Zeros_and_Ones_Digital_Women_and_the_New_Technoculture_1997.pdf

*Some more notes while going through the 9 points:

Point 1.
Thinking about religion and its relation to science is in many respects is indicative of his time.

The text was not only meant for other scientists, but also accessible to people outside these circles (still Western though).

A refute of religion based on the belief that only humans have souls.

It is worth asking the question of whether we see ourselves in the center being beyond or above machines.",0.9608902931213379
"You find a lot of hierarchical things in the dataset.
C: On the interface.",0.9599578380584717
"So it simplifies the whole context.
R: Where things go array... the arc of the process is pattern recognition and extrapolating conclusions.",0.959273099899292
Why should man be considered 'superior'?,0.9590542912483215
"Glad they have an algorithm for that.
A: I have never read code with people.",0.9579458236694336
Turing.,0.9565746784210205
"Also including non living things and systems.
- (Sonia) Aristotle in relation to causes: humans choose their own causes (?).
- (Sieta) the separation from the mind makes me feel like that it is very mindbased, when I read Meeting the universe halfway, she writes clearing up the concept of separation, and shift to a paradygm of thinking, and talks about this unified field that exists whit the idea of separation
- (Michelle) ""sympoiesis means to make from, it is a word for worlding"" Haraway
- (Sonia) we are chosing to identify ourselves as different from what surrounds has.
- (Noemi) some times it feels forceful to draw this (imaginary) line.
- (Michelle) The paradigm is focusing on a specific area, however, if we make the scope of the research wider, then there is a shift, from micro to macro.
- (Renee) This distinciton can be alienating andf have a negative impact, but at the same time it allows us to find the universe in the particular.
-(Agathe) defining entities, you have a set of attribute that you can perform, then later categorise them and chose the image you want to give to classification.",0.950951337814331
"Community networks offer an example
of how.",0.9500256776809692
"Where a human says, a little tweak this way, a little tweak the other way.

[But what do these numbers mean and how do we apply them in practice]
[slowing down and having conversations about what do these numbers do, which is very different from computing science]

Renée
4:17 PM
So in other words, you're asking your students about the consequences of the calibration.

""Best: balance accuracy

L: It is interesting that you are trying to mitigate bias in the program but in the end you have to use bias to make a decisions.
L: Using the language of mathematics to describe an emotion.",0.9470745921134949
"The system of the fingers being the same, but also the diversity of a system where the fingers are not the same. (i.e. diversity = robustness)

Cristina: there's also other animals who collaborate, it would be interesting to look into that as well.

Michelle: what is the relation of the individual to the collective.

Renée: akrasia and weakness of will and freedom, are both equally dependent. ""The intention 's overall robustness is the weighted
sum of its robustness under each of those conditions .",0.9465389847755432
"Use a headset to avoid causing background noise for others.To join this meeting by phone, dial: +31 15 201 0064Then enter 21282 as the conference PIN number.
[16:46] To invite someone to the meeting, send them this link: https://bbb.tbm.tudelft.nl/b/aga-9ab-8g7-tu1
[16:46] Renée: I know, it's freaky
[16:47] Renée: permaculture as an overarching structure where you understand things within a loop
[16:50] Noemi: Thank you for sharing!
[16:54] Michelle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOgzQLnQcHI
[16:54] Michelle: you can't hear me
[16:54] Michelle: don't know
[16:54] Michelle: okay
[16:55] Michelle: I was wondering if we could have a look at her work together
[16:55] Michelle: and maybe watch this youtube video together
[16:56] Cristina: next time you mean or in between?
[16:59] Cristina: @michelle: this one is also great text by her http://schemasofuncertainty.com/algorithms-as-cartomancy
[16:59] Michelle: when?
[17:00] Sieta: Ok!
[17:00] Michelle: at 4?
[17:01] Michelle: I have a meeting from 14-16
[17:01] Michelle: sure I can come after that
[17:01] Sieta: I can be there until 15:30
[17:01] danae: psa: this friday i'm at this SEX TECH TALKSHOW in case you want to join <3 https://twitter.com/touchyfeelytech/status/1385551389368127492
[17:01] Cristina: I can join too
[17:02] Cristina: @danae: when is the talk with you and timnit?
[17:02] danae: was yesterday!
[17:02] danae: five people went haha
[17:02] Cristina: recorded?
[17:02] danae: idk
[17:02] Cristina: 5 very lucky people




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Questions scraped

Can machines think?
What about spirituality?
What about Shinto?
Why should man be considered 'superior'?
(Michelle) Yes, this goes to the question of what is it to be human?
What does it mean to be alive/part of a society?
- 1st chapter is about how life is organasised when does the organism end and the envirohnment begins, are they part of tha same systems?
- (Michelle) where is the direction of the text going?
- (Sonia) Aristotle in relation to causes: humans choose their own causes (?
- (Michelle) how much of this concept of contingency is taken into the research process?
com/watch?
When is something called intelligence?
Renee: difference between wink and blink?
and how would that be worrying?
Danae: containeristation requires an amount of new skills, so we are in the midst of this problem, sustaining a more conservative system or embrace a new one?
Sieta: but an intentional trajectory would be within the context of the environment that also constraints, does that allow for less or more freedom?
Why do people become who they are?
If we release the framework of failure, we can really that we are in iterative cycles, and we can keep asking ourselves—how do I learn from this?
Which one is top down & which one is bottop up?
Linda: so the freedom we are talking about then, is it the freedom to be a finger while knowing that you are attached to a body?
What is the truth of freedom in this?
"" (Juarrero P?
(Sieta can add note later?
At which stage do you introduce the ethics and that frameworks?
Is it too late to introduce them now?
Do they have to be introduced in the beginning or can they be encoded later?
Anna: Is ethics the potential of making an unbiased system?
Eg: what is a cancerous cell?
Sonia: yes, but how many people do you include?
Do you include nonhumans?
Agathe: how to relate machine learning to this complex system theory?
Question: How does this notion of bias relate to machine pedagogies (also relating to Linda's question about when to introduce these 'ethics' into AI), could a machine also be learning over time and space?
Renee: Renee talked about the video with Maya Indira Ganesh in conversation with Nishant Shah on: do datasets just grow?
Are they responsive or inclusive?
com/watch?
Renee: what does that mean in terms of datasets?
org/?
Google deep dream as human-induced AI hallucinations?
If we release the framework of failure, we can really that we are in iterative cycles, and we can keep asking ourselves—how do I learn from this?
And how does this work in an AI system?
com/watch?
What about doing?
Did AI detect a ghost?
How does that work as well?
Renee: HOw does the camera frame the recognition?
Would it be possible to have the screen share on so I can look at the code while I am writing?
S: do you see it?
R: COCO comes from the Gorilla, Like COCO wanta a banaan?
S: Should I click on something else?
How are the icons developed?
R: It is scraping any informatino from the url> ?
Linda: Why children?
R: It raises the question who is being trained actually?
[Who and where are the workers?
A: Should we read the paper or look at something else?
com/url?
Is this where we are at?
C: Do you think they developed it themselves?
rather than solve, perhaps it can become more transparent?
Or use those biases as a source of debate and public engagement?
Is this a Luddite arguement?
What is the scope of the objection - is it about simply limitations or more profound?
Rather than a problem of the mathematical capabilities of the machine, it can instead (missed this part) (be a problem of the receiver?
If Turing was to re-write this text in the present, how would he re-write it?
What is it to be human?
What would be the questions you would ask him if he were here?
But if he were in the room, what would be the questions we would ask him?
For example, what would he think of drones?
|||STOP||||Where does the organism begin or end?
What is necessary is to have clear ideas about what life is?
|||STOP||||How is this system relational?
|||STOP||||Are dualities gradients?
How is contingency defined within the models presented in the text?
Dates: 25, 26 March?
or 26, 27 March?
co/invitation/mural/v28710/1617120139614?
What brings you joy in this time?
What do ""we"" want to be ""saved"" from?
What kind of technologies do we want in the first place?
How would we embed our highest values?
What is depth in the context of deep learning?
What is the role of social and cultural memory within the context of technology?
What does it mean to recall and remember?
What are we forgetting today?
Is it possible to speak of ""reconnection"" at all?
Aren't we disconnected, per definition?
Can technology help us to remember what we have forgotten?
What is consent in the context of data extraction?
How do you deal with the desire for social domination?
What is the best way of framing a conversation around positive versus negative (or other forms) of exposure?
What kind of infrastructure is needed for subaltern pattern making?
[16:11] Renée : So then we hit mute?
[16:12] Cristina : do we hit play?
[16:14] Sieta : did you press play?
[16:19] Renée : What brings you joy in this time?
[16:21] Renée : What kind of technologies do we want in the first place?
[16:21] Renée : How would we embed our highest values?
[16:21] Renée : What is depth in the context of deep learning?
[16:23] Cristina : (side-question: did anyone read the Indigenous AI position paper?
[16:23] Renée : What is the role of social and cultural memory within the context of technology?
What does it mean to recall and remember?
[16:24] Renée : What are we forgetting today?
[16:24] Sieta : Can technology help us to remember what we have forgotten?
[16:25] Renée : What is consent in the context of data extraction?
[16:27] Renée : What are the processes of alienation and detachment that take place within AI's ruse?
[16:28] Renée : How do race and technology shape one another?
[16:28] Renée : How are input, output and impact interrelated?
[16:31] Renée : How are algorithms, as proprietary black boxes, cloaking systemic racism while simultaneously executing (producing) (proliferating) it?
[16:35] Renée : How are we literally indebted to these technologies?
[16:36] Renée : What is the responsibility with those with computational expertise?
[16:39] Sieta : what was the name of this movie?
[16:41] Cristina : did it also skip bacck to the beginning for you?
[16:46] Renée : What are the financial incentives behind racist and sexist patterning?
[16:48] Renée : How is fairness defined in this context?
[16:49] Renée : How do we interrogate what it means to be seen and grasp its consequences in terms of exposure, if not vulnerability?
[16:55] Cristina : is this adjacent video watching ?
[16:57] danae : the zoo bird keeper?
[17:29] Renée : What is her name again?
perhaps the sub- and infra- in subaltern and infrastructure can point towards grassroots infrastructures which can eventually federate?
[17:33] Renée : chapter in ?
[17:42] Renée : When is being seen essential and when is exploitative?
[17:52] Michelle : What would my life be without AI?
[17:52] Renée : Is AI just convenience?
[17:52] Renée : Does AI help with more vitally with certain communities?
[17:53] Michelle : Is AI really necessary?
[17:54] Michelle : What would happen if AI suddenly disappeared?
[17:54] Michelle : Is AI just an arms race and is the robot revolution imminent?
[17:59] Cristina : is AI only servitude?
[18:01] Agathe Balayn : i would say that any recommender system is ai, right?
twitter sorting posts on your wall?
[18:02] Linda : and email?
co/invitation/mural/v28710/1617120139614?
Renee: what is care as intelligence?
what is intelligence, the artifice?
measured by leaderboards?
Winograd schemas (""The man could not lift his son because he was too fat"" --> who was too fat?
""documentation debt"" = when datasets are so large it is difficult/expensive to document them?
Renee: datasets as Rapuccini's daughter (?
Michelle: where is the funding concentrated?
who is the audience of these papers?
what use are these systems if someone is speaking urdu?
php?
Can you imagine if a similar amount of energy was expended on educating a child?
xample, that the residents of the Maldives (likely to be underwater by 2100) or the 800,000 people in Sudan affected by drastic floods pay the environmental price of training and deploying ever larger English LMs, when similar large-scale models aren’t being produced for Dhivehi or Sudanese Arabic?
ref to How Not To Teach (?
linda: how can you talk about refusal when you don't even have a base understanding?
which feminism can actualise in data science?
is it only liberal feminism?
does the radical have space?
renee: what are the leaderboards/benchmarks for this text?
agathe: how do these topics become accepted through the peer review processes?
pdf (maybe rhizomatica?
""When something can't be fixed, then the question is what can we build instead?
[17:11] Sieta: like a README?
[17:37] Renée: who are the curators and what is their agenda - whether formulated forthrightly or through neglect?
[17:49] Michelle: how about a care brief?
[15:19] Renée: does the line break occassionally?
[16:15] Sieta: is there somewhere a website for rhizomatica?
[16:28] Renée: at the exclusion of others?
com/watch?
[16:56] Cristina: next time you mean or in between?
[16:59] Michelle: when?
[17:00] Michelle: at 4?
[17:02] Cristina: @danae: when is the talk with you and timnit?
[17:02] Cristina: recorded?


































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But there are two for baseball and the baseball glove.,0.94000244140625
"Now there isn't the category ""clutter"".
- (Cristina) collective data collection; there is this separation between background and foreground collection now.
- (Sonia) realisng that the Captcha has a small American data set.
- (Renee) Book about the concept of undifferentiated and indistngusheable
- (Danae) theory about contingency, how it is important to recognise the existence of relations.
- Telenomic - carried out with a goal
- Hazard - Arabic root Haz-zahr - dice game of chance
- (Michelle) how much of this concept of contingency is taken into the research process?
- (Sonia) life is self contained, we cannot ignore that there is a chain of events but we must consider that these events matter
- (Sonia) contingency is a necessity when looking at the universe.",0.939848005771637
There was a paper about robustness recently.,0.9366939067840576
"As the Zapatistas say, “The world we want is one where many worlds fit.”
[17:28] Cristina: I love that Zapatistas quote!
[17:29] Michelle: Of course, these proposed advocacy steps have to involve people from the affected geographies, who should be at the centre of strategising and in decision-making roles, in order to gain legitimacy and to not replicate the power imbalances of neocolonial realities.
[17:30] Cristina: Thus what is also needed is scholarship on
the benefits, harms, and risks of mimicking humans and thoughtful
design of target tasks grounded in use cases sufficiently concrete
to allow collaborative design with affected communities.
[17:30] Cristina: (Timnit agrees!)
[17:31] Michelle: Thus what is also needed is scholarship on
the benefits, harms, and risks of mimicking humans and thoughtful
design of target tasks grounded in use cases sufficiently concrete
to allow collaborative design with affected communities.
[17:32] Cristina: https://www.apc.org/sites/default/files/sneak_peek2020_final.pdf
[17:36] Renée: As organizers, we prize these exchanges as productive collisions, as the signs of life of a new counterculture of computing that we hope to nourish.",0.9347677826881409
"What about spirituality?! (Danae) Vitalism also enabling more environmentally-conscious practices.
What about Shinto? (Sieta)
What is very nice about what he refutes is that he talks about Galileo, et al and says: you religious people are the flat-earthers... (Renée)
Quote from Margullis and Sagan on us being inventions of bacteria (Linda)
Yes! And the thrown-around AI trope ""we won't be much else than the gut flora of AI"" (Sonia)
The religious narratives remain present, whatever relations we speak of: humans and non-humans, machines and non-machines (Renée)
James Lovelock quote: we anthropomorphize machines, so our successors should be, too.",0.9345098733901978
"We have contextual constraints that limit our behavior, even in tiny niches: even here! The anarchist values, the feminist values, etc.",0.9303536415100098
"Strong and hardy; strongly and solidly built, sturdy; healthy.
from Oxford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Benedict
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Michelle
5:51 PM
The
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Blink
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Renée
5:56 PM
Agathe tries to think what machine learning would be in this context.
mi
Michelle
5:57 PM
Bring in the context
mi
Michelle
6:03 PM
Politics of Reticence
mi
Michelle
6:04 PM
I refuse to make my language palatable to your ears.
mi
Michelle
6:05 PM
What appears to be inaudible.",0.9301835298538208
"So is akrasia,
or weakness of will."" So the random or the movement of a jellyfish, they're both bound to the completeness of the system.

Text: Robustness/vulnerability is bound to many factors.",0.9293369650840759
"It implies both a lack and an ought: something does not exist, but it should.",0.9292643666267395
"Now machines can break this paradox, but perhaps with the wrong answer.

She brings up the point that sometimes the question itself is unclear.

Danae declares her love of math.",0.9269617199897766
Either they force a certain set of annotations.,0.9264076948165894
I mention the example of the captions becuase it reminded me of the expeirence of creative wriitng.,0.9232820272445679
"Not in the sense of ""grattitude"" but in servitude.
[16:36] Renée : What is the responsibility with those with computational expertise?
[16:36] Renée : ""of those""
[16:39] Sieta : what was the name of this movie?
[16:41] Cristina : did it also skip bacck to the beginning for you?
[16:42] Sieta : yes
[16:42] Renée : “Artifacts have politics” Langdon Winner
[16:42] Welcome to Slow reading!For help on using BigBlueButton see these (short) tutorial videos.To join the audio bridge click the phone button.",0.922440230846405
You should look at fairness by looking at attributes.,0.9195709228515625
"Doing it in person, writing the notes.",0.918164074420929
"And she quotes Carl Sagan saying that it was challenging to create the settlement as it was too difficult to recreate the earth.
Danae opens up the question about religion, not in terms of its restraints or prohibition, but instead its potentialities.

Sieta raises Shintoism.",0.9107648730278015
"Crowd
labeling is similar to semantic segmentation as object instance are not individually identified.",0.9022107720375061
Are they responsive or inclusive?,0.8990790247917175
"So, we may be surprised by the result of what we order!
7) Argument from continuity in the nervous system: the nervous system is not a discrete-state machine.",0.894127368927002
"It's interesting to think about the answers would be, to some questions we can speculate about.
(Agathe): nowadays computers scientists wouldn't really be encouraged to write these texts, so I wonder if that's the case he published it it in a psychology/philosophy context.",0.88987135887146
"This information was collected in the form of audio recordings played on a community radio, and photographs and videos of different plant and crop varieties.",0.8884310126304626
"A word for worlding.|||STOP||||
|||STOP||||Fruit flies.",0.8875228762626648
Individual fairness is the goal of similar individuals receiving similar treatments or outcomes.,0.8797140121459961
"MAny people were worrying about the provision of safe systems within containerisation.


09 March Meeting Notes

Renée: value-ladenness and Aristotle, what about the specifity of relying Aristotle, external values and internal values versus what we would consider now as different approaches to the concept of freedom/action.

Text: human ability to project meaning (Dupré).",0.8788971900939941
"Especially in the US.

Michelle
4:12 PM
Predpol
is an example

A: Categories are not often discussed.",0.8787994384765625
"There is a hierarchical way of looking at the concept presented in the introduction, which is presented in a binary way.",0.8764457106590271
"It proposes relationality, over individualism for stronger social cohesions towards sustainable communities.",0.8729571104049683
"If you don't have time to register what you are looking at, then there is less bias.",0.8726129531860352
He took super violent images and described them clinically.,0.8714321255683899
"But we cannot imagine anything intelligent that is not like ""us"". [Lovelock, James (2019).",0.8696810603141785
"Machine Analysis

Sentiment Analysis of all notes
https://monkeylearn.com/sentiment-analysis-online/
Positive 75.6%

Runway ML www.runwayML.com
Text to image with attnGAN
see > https://share.riseup.net/#1Iq408FNL6v79A_q0eiX4A


Word cloud generator https://www.wordclouds.com/

""Initial text: We discuss reading methodologies.",0.8661679625511169
There is certainly something to this conjecture.,0.8608282804489136
"Did AI detect a ghost?
I would like to see the code!
Agathe: I have code for how to detect objects.
DS: Information and context.",0.8504629135131836
When is something called intelligence?,0.8501898050308228
"The plan being in agreement with the result of the action is a form of robustness.

Linda: perhaps animals that are not humans can be considered as freer than humans, because they are not constrained by the limits of morals etc.",0.8492935299873352
What is your understanding of this moment in time?,0.8412327170372009
I am trying to do the math.,0.8404931426048279
"Use a headset to avoid causing background noise for others.To join this meeting by phone, dial: +31 15 201 0064Then enter 87703 as the conference PIN number.
[16:42] undefined : To invite someone to the meeting, send them this link: https://bbb.tbm.tudelft.nl/b/aga-9ab-8g7-tu1
[16:43] Renée : now it's working
[16:46] Renée : What are the financial incentives behind racist and sexist patterning?
[16:48] Renée : How is fairness defined in this context?
[16:49] Renée : How do we interrogate what it means to be seen and grasp its consequences in terms of exposure, if not vulnerability?
[16:53] Renée : OMG.. the giant owl - oehoe is in the tree.. the gardeners are calling me to come and look.
[16:54] danae : <3!!!
[16:55] Renée : the zoo bird keeper is here
[16:55] Sieta : https://kikimager.com/input-output - Kiki made a artistic version of HireVue
[16:55] Cristina : is this adjacent video watching ?
[16:56] Renée : can you see him/
[16:57] danae : the zoo bird keeper? so i shouldn't be expecting owls in my balcony </3
[16:57] danae : i saw a blurry thing
[16:57] Renée : sorry I have to grab a ladder for him to go up the tree
[16:58] Sonia : So sorry, I have to go!!! :(
[16:58] Sonia : <3
[16:59] Sieta : No worries! :) <3
[16:59] Cristina : Nice to see you Sonia!! <3
[17:02] Cristina : resilient owl
[17:03] Cristina : the owl's bird view totally connects to ai perspectives i think
[17:18] Cristina : christine meinders https://vimeo.com/366495908
[17:21] Cristina : https://www.lorenbritton.com/media/pages/texts/abstracting-otherwise-in-search-for-a-common-strategy-for-arts-and-computing/369876103-1593078159/abstracting-otherwise-in-search-for-a-common-strategy-for-arts-and-computing-klumbyte-britton.pdf
[17:23] Agathe Balayn : https://web.br.de/interaktiv/ki-bewerbung/en/ some ""demo"" of biases in softwares like HireVue
[17:29] Renée : What is her name again?
[17:31] Cristina : @michelle, still thinking about your question... perhaps the sub- and infra- in subaltern and infrastructure can point towards grassroots infrastructures which can eventually federate?
[17:33] Renée : chapter in ?
[17:33] Agathe Balayn : the artist;s work ahttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/03/berlin-artist-uses-99-phones-trick-google-maps-traffic-jam-alert
[17:34] Renée : Thanks Agathe
[17:38] Cristina : https://ahprojects.com/vframe/
[17:39] Noemi : HI everyone! Sorry for joining late
[17:40] Cristina : hello :)
[17:42] Renée : When is being seen essential and when is exploitative?
[17:46] Renée : It is very contextual.
[17:51] Renée : https://www.eur.nl/en/people/antoinette-de-bont
[17:52] Michelle : What would my life be without AI?
[17:52] Renée : Is AI just convenience?
[17:52] Renée : Does AI help with more vitally with certain communities?
[17:53] Michelle : Is AI really necessary?
[17:53] Noemi : the why and the why not
[17:54] Michelle : What would happen if AI suddenly disappeared?
[17:54] Michelle : Is AI just an arms race and is the robot revolution imminent?
[17:59] Cristina : is AI only servitude?
[17:59] Renée : * not productivity
[17:59] Sieta : we could also use Mural, kind of same application as Miro (V2_ has a subscription)
[18:01] Cristina : i'm wondering if i actually come in contact with ai
[18:01] Renée : can we call it an encounter
[18:01] Agathe Balayn : i would say that any recommender system is ai, right? (e.g. twitter sorting posts on your wall?)
[18:01] Cristina : true but i use mastodon (just kidding)
[18:02] Renée : yes, I agree - these tailoring algorithms
[18:02] Linda : and email?
[18:02] Cristina : i use translation AI for my dutch class
[18:02] Agathe Balayn : gmail uses AI to predict next words, also to sort your emails. but you might not use gmail ^^
[18:02] Sieta : Personal encounters with AI
[18:03] Sieta : https://app.mural.co/invitation/mural/v28710/1617120139614?sender=u812232d4b6c0c84d682d0139&key=7ecd6626-5e1b-4239-8cd2-af39e079a4f2
[18:04] Linda : i can't open it yet but sure!
[18:05] Cristina : i added the link at the bottom of the pad
[18:06] Cristina : llet us know when you have a date for the hotglue, renee, just in case it's possible to join


06/04/2021
We have been working here for the first hour:
https://app.mural.co/t/v28710/m/v28710/1617120139614/48a391880736b157a96c31e01eee941bde48a115


Sonia
5:08 PM
""AS THEY SAY IN AI
AI IS
WHATEVER AI CANT DO YET""

i love this one

--> I twisted it

Sonia
5:08 PM
But it's basically the saying, among AI researchers

Sonia
5:08 PM
AI is the horizon, as soon as something is accomplished it's no longer considered AI

Sonia
5:08 PM
(like DeepBlue chess, alphago, etc.)

Sonia
5:09 PM
Pamela McCorduck calls it an ""odd paradox"" that ""practical AI successes, computational programs that actually achieved intelligent behavior, were soon assimilated into whatever application domain they were found to be useful in, and became silent partners alongside other problem-solving approaches, which left AI researchers to deal only with the ""failures"", the tough nuts that couldn't yet be cracked.""
(from wiki)

Agathe Balayn
5:11 PM
the book for which the first chapter tries to define AI: https://www.cin.ufpe.br/~tfl2/artificial-intelligence-modern-approach.9780131038059.25368.pdf

Sieta: intelligence is perhaps separate from consciousness

Sonia: Ned Block's China Brain
spatial intuintion/common sense is actually extremely difficult to replicate and to understand and not at all

Renee: what is care as intelligence?

Sonia
5:24 PM
(from a presentation by David Gunning):
John McCarthy (Stanford, circa 1960):
∃a.",0.839974045753479
"What does it mean to be alive/part of a society?
(Sonia): it would be really interesting to think about an event where we invite speakers to think about what Turing would have thought of X or Y.
(Renée): (after we talked about hormonal castration) what is very interesting is also ""oestrogen"".",0.8377634882926941
It requires you to categorise the world in order to make decisions.,0.8364105224609375
"We also
added a stage to verify the instance segmentations. (Source?)

[Jeff Bezos refers to these workers as AI]

S: The more you work like machines the more you become one.
S: The background never matters.",0.829035222530365
"To that, we aim for sustainability of our work, by being fully integrated with technological stakeholders to ensure the community continues to thrive into the future
[16:38] Agathe Balayn: data for Black lives https://d4bl.org/
[16:40] Cristina: Abolish Big Data is a call to action to reject the concentration of Big Data in the hands of a few, to challenge the structures that allow data to be wielded as a weapon of immense political influence.",0.8184701800346375
"That it didn't need to be systematic to talk about fairness.
R: And what if they were to say ""bias is a sin"".
[reading]
A: Defining a protective and non-protective group.",0.8152221441268921
Or look at the videos.,0.8126563429832458
"It happens in cycles, convergences, explosions.",0.8052720427513123
"It happens in cycles, convergences, explosions.",0.8052720427513123
Is it too late to introduce them now?,0.8051950335502625
"Q-anons are free, perhaps, they believe this ""system"" and they just act on it. w

Sonia: Agreed.",0.8021999597549438
"Also: if God is almighty, then he can give machines intelligence too.",0.798990786075592
"Creating an AI that goes out of control. papaerclip scenario, it goes out of control and turns the whole world into paperclips. but that is THE GOAL, the more robust the more we as humans think about the result coming out of maximisation.

Danae: autonomous providers.",0.7960956692695618
Researchers did that to avoid bias.,0.7912419438362122
Woman in dress standing among them.,0.7661702632904053
Eg: communists gain the freedom to operate within a collective as opposed to the libertarians.,0.7610335946083069
Most people don't walk thorugh the city that way.,0.7516307234764099
"These levels free up qualitatively more.

Sieta: I read this as the freedom of taking an action in the sense of two ways: depending on neurological organization (physiological functions), we either have more of this, or also the point of expressing your values; if one is free to express oneself.

Anna: I think I agree, if you are the product of your context, you act in a certain way, but also you are the product of your physiology.

Cristina: I was thinking about acting randomly or acting intentionally, in the sense of acting according to your values and the development of an intentional trajectory.

Sieta: but an intentional trajectory would be within the context of the environment that also constraints, does that allow for less or more freedom?

Text: robustness and akrasia, the central lesson of complex adaptive systems is that when everything is connected to everything else, we cannot isolate the problem.",0.7515954971313477
"We’re against research that takes African contributions or data and puts them behind a paywall that is infeasible for Africans to access.

Multidisciplinarity - We truly believe that participation from all fields and experience and that multidisciplinarity leads to a more robust and more inclusive society

Everyone has valuable knowledge - We believe that each person’s individual experiences have value and each person is worth listening too and has something to contribute.

Kindness - We believe that being considerate, friendly and generous within our community is the best way to support it and encourage more inclusivity

Responsibility - We believe that each person in the technology process has an ethical responsibility to what they produce in the world.",0.7404305338859558
"The uncanny: strangeness arising from that which is not ""quite right"".",0.73137366771698
"There are no rules to behavior, so the human cannot be a machine, the human is free to act. (Sonia: side note, the chemical basis of morphogenesis from Turing is also a beautiful refutation of this)
9) The argument from extra-sensory perception: telepathy, clairvoyance, etc.",0.731351375579834
How much is being read.,0.7309182286262512
"For instance, one can take inspiration from movements to decolonize education by moving towards oral histories due to the overrepresentation of colonial views in text [35, 76, 127], and curate training datasets through a thoughtful
process of deciding what to put in, rather than aiming solely for scale and trying haphazardly to weed out, post-hoc, flotsam deemed ‘dangerous’, ‘unintelligible’, or ‘otherwise bad’.
[16:46] Cristina: https://www.ainarratives.com/ai-communism
[16:56] Michelle: geographies of datasets
[16:57] Renée: the provinces of datasets
[16:57] Renée: geographic specificity of datasets
[16:58] Agathe Balayn: this paper shows some kind of geography distribution for one dataset https://openaccess.thecvf.com/content_CVPRW_2019/papers/cv4gc/de_Vries_Does_Object_Recognition_Work_for_Everyone_CVPRW_2019_paper.pdf
[16:59] Michelle: While this was reportedly effective at filtering out documents that previous work characterized as “unintelligible”
[17:00] danae: Furthermore, the tendency of human interlocutors to impute meaning where there is none can mislead both NLP researchers and the general public into taking synthetic text as meaningful.
[17:01] Renée: that's super interesting
[17:02] danae: https://digitalwitchcraft.works/Autopoietic-Post-Doom
[17:02] Renée: what does synthetic text teach us
[17:02] Renée: meaning that's an interesting field of inquiry
[17:04] Michelle: A central aspect of social movement formation involves using language strategically to destabilize dominant narratives and call attention to underrepresented social perspectives.
[17:04] Renée: ‘value-lock’
[17:06] Renée: As a result, the data underpinning
LMs stands to misrepresent social movements and disproportionately
align with existing regimes of power.
[17:07] Renée: I so want to unpack ""curation practices""
[17:08] Cristina: https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.09010
[17:08] Cristina: In the electronics industry, every component, no matter how simple or complex, is accompanied with a datasheet that describes its operating characteristics, test results, recommended uses, and other information.",0.7295964360237122
They show what is annotated under the images.,0.7170630693435669
How is contingency defined within the models presented in the text?,0.7124723196029663
"Environment and internal dynamics, individual attractors cannot be isolated from others: warp and woof of a fabric.",0.7107160687446594
The workers of Imagenet.,0.7069992423057556
"To create a machine that is potentially unbiased machine can be addressed with a representative team.

Sonia: yes, but how many people do you include?",0.6952705979347229
Intentional human action is free to the degree that we put values and morals to control.,0.6905921697616577
A new sign language needs to be established.,0.6844460964202881
"The looming question is whether data or the artificially intelligent system that learn from them, in their far-reaching entrenchment within people’s lives, are ultimately able to instill their logic in the minds of people subjected to their algorithmic world views.""

Renée
3:44 PM
It is interesting to think about this text in relation to the other text, AI Fairness 360 ... under the header ""Terminology"" there is this point that somehow relates to what we are discussing with regards to ""description"" over interpretation:

In this section, we briefly define specialized terminology from the field of fairness in machine learning.",0.6693968176841736
"Do they have to be introduced in the beginning or can they be encoded later?

Sonia: When working at UN, they wanted to be THE people who make THE ethical guidelines for AI. But what she's underlinning with wink and blink: from the moment you act, the ethics are already baked into the act.",0.6591272354125977
"A bias mitigation algorithm is a procedure for reducing unwanted bias in training data or models.

C: The glance vs the gaze.",0.6562684178352356
We all blink.,0.6460291147232056
"But of course AI capital making relies on secrecy to make monetary gains.

Anna: Is ethics the potential of making an unbiased system?

Sonia: yes, it's part of it.",0.6444483995437622
"When the items are words, n-grams may also be called shingles.


word embeddings
word2vec, GloVe, context2vec, ELMo

Example of training NL on books of different genres and periods and they discovered that the systsem was trained with the bias of the period.
That was this paper https://www.pnas.org/content/115/16/E3635

Linda wonders about the use of literature because it is in fact highly edited and refined.",0.6122126579284668
"We have been pretty text heavy in our previous exercises
Donna Summer: I would like to have opportunity to look at the actual code.",0.6044362187385559
"Examples include race, gender, caste, and religion.",0.5863269567489624
"Reformulating explanations.
- (Danae) The notion that living systems allow for comparative analysis.",0.5830442905426025
"But in general, we can also classify it under the category of ""human superiority"" conjectures.",0.5799702405929565
"But the top-down influences the bottom-up, and vice versa.

Sieta: I would love to read a bit of this book on conditioned behavior: ""an overstimulated nervous system"". (Sieta can add note later?)

Sonia: If you are sensitive to complex systems dynamics, reproducibility is harder to achieve.

Linda: RE: ethics in AI. At which stage do you introduce the ethics and that frameworks?",0.5674722790718079
"Vocabulary is similar to ML communities.

Question: How does this notion of bias relate to machine pedagogies (also relating to Linda's question about when to introduce these 'ethics' into AI), could a machine also be learning over time and space?

Renee: Renee talked about the video with Maya Indira Ganesh in conversation with Nishant Shah on: do datasets just grow?",0.5654338002204895
M.,0.5393232107162476
M.,0.5393232107162476
"Contrary Views on the Main Question

NOTES MEETING 23RD FEBRUARY by Anna (Reading Introduction to Autopoiesis and Cognition: The Realization of the Living by Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela)

- (Danae) both Chilean biologists, their theories have been very influential
example of autopietic systems can be Bots.
- 1st chapter is about how life is organasised when does the organism end and the envirohnment begins, are they part of tha same systems? to answer we must have clear the idea of what is a living thing and what isn't
- Introduction: the concept of unity coexists with the concept of diversity, only then you can consider the concept of infinity.
- (Michelle) where is the direction of the text going? the concepts are presented in a binary sense.
- (Sieta) we are reading these texts to understand life better.",0.5364320874214172
You can see algorithms as divination.,0.5363689661026001
"Instead of a paradigm of verticality where species move up the evolutionary tree, her research has shown that a majority of organisms practice a horizontal transfer of genes.
- (Danae) Reading this text in a less human-centred way through the shared unserstanding that we are 21st Century evolved beings, therefore shifting the understanding of the binary way in which the concept is presented.",0.5331891775131226
And asked people to take a picture in their environment.,0.5119200348854065